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#1 bow legged chicken

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 05:15 PM

Is it part of the fall out of the behaviour of their vile supporters on Wednesday? on BBC news now that their new stadium will not happen,
1-0 To the dog Walkers.

Maybe Pantsdown can turn the land into a running track .



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 05:18 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk...ristol-23985324

 

10 - 0 to the dog walkers more like



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 05:18 PM

This has been on the cards for ages.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...ristol-23985324


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Posted 06 September 2013 - 05:23 PM

Personally, I feel no joy at this announcement. The forces of minority interest have won out against progress, jobs and growth in our city.

 

Let's hope the same does not apply to the Sainsbury's Mem development and UWE.


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Posted 06 September 2013 - 05:26 PM

Well I think its great, Pantsdown has bought this prime development land and is keeping it for the dogs to use whilst his beloved Trashton pitch is used for the Equestrian events and Rugby.
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Posted 06 September 2013 - 05:34 PM

IMO Landsdown wins whatever the outcome he will make loads of money off that land by turning it into houses! He is a clever bloke

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 05:35 PM

Yeah this is brilliant news. To be honest, people are quick to have a pop at the residents but it is green belt land and having nothing there as opposed to a massive football stadium is something people obviously want to avoid.

 

Of course it's a minority but that was always going to happen as the majority don't live there!



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 05:37 PM

A village green is a village green and you can no more build houses on it than a stadium.

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 05:39 PM

Where the **** do they get off!
If planning enquiry into a.v. town green is delayed AND a.g.planning permission is granted in nov they will abandon a.v project! Talk about holding the council for ransom or what.so it appears there is something that they fear will come to light in the oct town green enquiry that they want kept quiet as it will jeopardise the a.g rebuild p.p.meeting the following month.bcfc82 ltd never cease to ride roughshod over all and sundry to get their own way it seems.stunned once again by the their total arrogance.
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Posted 06 September 2013 - 05:40 PM

It has been said in a number of reports that half of the land is going to be handed over to build houses!

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 05:48 PM

Personally, I feel no joy at this announcement. The forces of minority interest have won out against progress, jobs and growth in our city.

 

Let's hope the same does not apply to the Sainsbury's Mem development and UWE.

Yep, 2 decent stadiums in Bristol would have been great.


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#12 Steve From Stoke

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 05:49 PM

Does go to show - assuming this is true - that the Nimby's have only ever been anti-stadium rather than anti-development.

 

Fingers crossed similar challenges don't scupper the Mem redevelopment.



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 05:59 PM

A village green is a village green and you can no more build houses on it than a stadium.


It's not a village green.
But yes they won't ever get planning for a football stadium.

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 06:12 PM

It's not a village green.
But yes they won't ever get planning for a football stadium.

Ok, technically it received town green status, so you can no more build houses on a town green than a stadium.;-)

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 06:17 PM

It's not a village green.
But yes they won't ever get planning for a football stadium.

 

I thought they HAD planning permission for the stadium, but this is subject to the village green issue being resolved.



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Posted 07 September 2013 - 10:32 PM

Ok, technically it received town green status, so you can no more build houses on a town green than a stadium. ;-)

 

 

only 1 section of the land has been given the status.

 

the other section is the disputed part now, and the rumour is that a deal may be made to allow that land to be developed for houses, but NOT for a stadium.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 10:50 PM

Where the **** do they get off!
If planning enquiry into a.v. town green is delayed AND a.g.planning permission is granted in nov they will abandon a.v project! Talk about holding the council for ransom or what.so it appears there is something that they fear will come to light in the oct town green enquiry that they want kept quiet as it will jeopardise the a.g rebuild p.p.meeting the following month.bcfc82 ltd never cease to ride roughshod over all and sundry to get their own way it seems.stunned once again by the their total arrogance.

 

To be fair I don't think BCFC 1982 are gaining anything from this at all.  In fact it is a snivelling retreat and cost cutting exercise for them and the Council.

 

Their redevelopment plans are pretty dull and not particularly controversial at all.  It keeps pretty much the same footprint and height as before.  It doesn't create anything new.  It just revamps and slightly enlarges the capacity (but not really the size) of a rather tired stadium.

 

It's already a footy stadium, and it was already agreed to be turned into a huge supermarket.  It's not like they will be asking to build on virgin land or change from housing to business (which is pretty much a no-no with Councils).

 

Personally I think it would have been funny to see the TG enquiry to go on and on, and reveal some interesting snippets of info. I think the Council have acted disgracefully to disagree with an Independent Inspector who looked at all the evidence on each side.  I don't see how a 'compromise' needs to be reached.  It should have been made a TG.  No other inspectors report has ever been ignored like that.  This is nothing to do with jobs, a footy stadium or an arena.  It's about protecting green spaces.  There are enough brown field sites in Bristol that can be regenerated for a stadium and/or an arena.  As an example, the Parcelforce site at Temple Meads is perfect for an arena.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 10:56 PM

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Saturday, September 7 2013, 9:51AM

 

That was a long sleep it must be TVG time again.


"the council is keen to see an end to the long running dispute as soon as possible"
Lie:- the Council caused the dispute, wriggled and miss informed with the help of this newspaper to drag it out as long as possible, and when George arose as the shining knight of a greater beutiful Bristol he said that waiting untill October with the silly excuses from the legal team was not on, he would sort it out ,looks like that was another George-ism.
They had the chance to end it at the start with the registration meeting, the rest is history.

"a council spokesman declined to comment because of the risk of prejudicing proceedings"
Rubbish :- the council was happy to comment almost every week with anything they could think up to prejudice any proceedings , remember it was they who started the whole thing by throwing out the successful application in the first place, that we paid for and have been paying for ever since.


They are also aware that almost every comment that they made in the past was absolute rubbish and made them look silly, of course George could comment as no one believes

rubbish and made them look silly, of course George could comment as no one believes what he says any how, and looking silly for George is normal.

And what deal is this, Bristol City is a different club than it was when this dispute started the requirement for the grand plan that included the stadium has faded away.
Staying where they are was always a option and now it appears that is what will happen.

Planning permission for the present site is guaranteed (by George) so there is nothing to wait for.

The southern bit of the TVG is already registered (probably! with bits missing) so there is no deal there ,and when the artificialy delayed legal proceedings start again in october they should have to register the northern half, so what is the deal.

There is no deal.

They will redevelop the existing ground and George says he will speed through the permission no problem there then (exept George).

The south bit is a TVG (we are told but is it true).

The north bit has to wait untill october then it should be a TVG as well.

So whats the deal i cant see one, all that has happened is the stadium stays where it is the TVG is already where it is,and we just have to finish of the legal process to get the north bit.

Even if they loose the north bit of the TVG the position is the still same the chances of a new stadium is zero and the south bit is already TVG and the north bit would be built on anyhow.

So there is no real reason why the proccess cannot continue, the only thing that the council is trying to wriggle out of is if the north bit is registered as a TVG then they cannot build anything on the site, and that was the original idea.

So the real deal is the council and BCFC want the process to stop to try and halt the chances of the north bit being registered, so we are back at the the beginning they are still trying to stop the registration of the whole site as it was at the start.

And to be realistic if the north bit is not registered they could still build a stadium there as they already have permission, no matter what is being reported now remember lies are to be expected in this dispute.

The whole thing should be allowed to conclude as it was going to, as Ashton Vale have nothing to loose, they may get the north bit they may not that was always going to be the case anyhow.

If the process was for a TVG and not anti stadium then it should carry on as protecting the site was the sole reason for a TVG application in the first place, it was anti development not anti stadium, that position should not have changed.

So it looks like the start of another round of the TVG road show nobody will ever get the truth out if this saga”


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#19 Charlie Crews

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 07:14 AM

What a joke. Surely it is all a village Green or not and if a half and half compromise is agreed then City should be able to build Ashton Vale. Those residents should have to oppose any houses. Ic they accept it they are hypocrits and i dont k ow how they aree better off then having a stadium

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 07:32 AM

If it is turned into houses I would love it to be turned into a council estate and house all the trouble makers there and let those nimbys suffer. I am severely hating these people more and more every day and the council for that matter. They are so anti sport its unbelievable.




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